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Curtis
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20081007
PostOpen response to Seelenlos

http://www.intersexualite.org/Seelenlos.html

http://www.intersexualite.org/Seelenlos.html

My translation:
Hardly any active scientist today has more on this conscience concerning forced operations on hermaphrodites that the Prof. Dr. Heino F. L. Meyer-Bahlburg. Despite this, he is hardly criticized by the “Intersex Community” and held publicly accountable for his actions. On the contrary, OII (here Seelenlos gives a reference to our page on Alice Dreger which is hyperlinked to) would make one have the impression that the one who deserves this are really Alice Dreger. The world turned upside-down?

(And to state clearly one again, I find DSD to be crap and finally an independent goal or issue. However, from all that I know, there has been hardly anyone who up to now has been more firmly opposed and been more embroiled in the fight to end genital mutilation than Alice Dreger, Chase a.k.a Laurent & ISNA)

http://blog.zwischengeschlecht.info/post/2008/10/05/Prof-Dr-Heino-Meyer-Bahlburg%3A-John-Moneys-Erbe

Written by Seelenlos : http://bodyfascist.com/

My response in English:

How is it that Seelenlos knows more about Alice Dreger and ISNA than those of us in the United States? How is it that Seelenlos is not aware that almost ALL former ISNA members have rejected what Alice Dreger and ISNA have done and formed their own Intersex Collective? (1) How is it that Seelenlos has not read that three of the people in the DSD Guidelines made Alice Dreger retract their inclusion in that publication? (2) How is it that Seelenlos does not understand that the Accord Alliance which is the new organization in the United States founded by Cheryl Chase and others PROMOTES intersex genital mutilation because it is in favor of the LWPES guidelines which has already published it Consensus on infants with CAH which recommends surgeries between 2 and 6 months? (3) How is it that Seelenlos does not understand that ISNA and Dreger, after 15 years of activism have had no effect whatsoever in the number of infants subjected to normalization treatments without consent? The statistics prove that nothing has changed.

I think Seelenlos would be better to be open minded and read FACTS objectively.

I would also point out to Seelenlos that Dr. Meyer-Bahlberg is a strong supporter of the Chicago Consensus which is what the new Accord Alliance is also supporting.

After speaking with Sophie Siedlberg from the United Kingdom, this was her personal response:

“It seems very interesting that this German-speaking group is very happy to spring to the defense of Alice Dreger, considering that Alice Dreger and the one academic that she defends a lot, J Michael Bailey, preach eugenics and also seem to focus almost exclusively on the feminization of intersex children when discussing human rights issues.”

Curtis E. Hinkle
Founder of OII
Organisation Intersex International
http://www.intersexualite.org/

Footnotes:
1. Intersex Collective which is made of principally of former ISNA supporters
http://www.intersexcollective.org/
2. Three intersex activists defend children against pejorative terminology
http://www.intersexualite.org/Disorders_of_Sex_Development.html#anchor_27
3: The Accord Alliance supports the Chicago Consensus Statement
http://www.accordalliance.org/dsd-information.html
The new organization which Bo Laurent (real name of Cheryl Chase) has helped found appears to be very pro-surgery. If you read the website of the Accord Alliance, you will notice that the mission of the Accord Alliance is to support the Consensus Statement. The following is from the LWPES Consensus Statement on CAH:
The LWPES Consensus on CAH is found here:
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/87/9/4048

Quote from that Consensus Statement:
"Based on recent clinical experience, the recommended time for surgery is at age 2–6 months; although, at present, this is not universal practice. It is important to note that surgery at this stage is technically easier than at later stages."

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Curtis E. Hinkle
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